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PostSubject: High Premade Items   High Premade Items EmptyWed Sep 02, 2009 12:46 pm

Ok something that has been bugging me for a couple of days (when I first figured this out) is the extremely high price of the high-premade items.

Scepter of the Primarch 15300g | Rod of Immo. 4300g + heart thing 5500 + reciepe 3000 = 12800 for a difference of 2500g

Holy Scepter of Proctector 40000g | Scepter of Primarch 12800g + divining rod 10600g + receipe 10000g = 303400 for a difference of 6600g

So if this is a mistake or something I can understand but if it is suppose to be like this I can't see the reason for it. I mean I see the slight time advantage in buying a premade item but I do not think its is worth that much gold. ????
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PostSubject: Re: High Premade Items   High Premade Items EmptyWed Sep 02, 2009 3:05 pm

Its like that on purpose to promote knowing the actual item recipe's. On some of them it saves a lot of time without any item dropping in order to make. Really I think there is a lot more benefit into making the item piece by piece then by buying it whole. The only time I buy an item whole is when Im rich, or when I have limited space in my inventory.
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PostSubject: Re: High Premade Items   High Premade Items EmptyWed Sep 02, 2009 4:16 pm

I figured the pricing is on purpose, I just really do not understand the advantage of the high premade shop then. Obviously, early game you are going to be buying items piece by piece as your inventory fills up and once it is full with appropriate items only then would you consider buying any of these premade receipes. However, at no matter what point in the game it is always going to be more advantageous to use your peon and buy items piece by piece. So these premade items obviously are not there for those wishing to maximize their gameplay. So that leaves regular players and pubs who would be buying these receipes and I do not see how that helps them out as they would probably be behind anyways and now they are most likey unknowingly wasting their gold on these items. I guess I just do not see the point of the high premade shop with the prices the way they are.
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PostSubject: Re: High Premade Items   High Premade Items EmptyWed Sep 02, 2009 4:50 pm

I guess its more of a I cant play the game for the very first time and pawn your asses type thing. I have seen the very same thing in some RPG games and other arenas I think Angel anyways the Pro's Know better the noobs dont. However the noob wont be completly fucked if they dont know how to build the item because there it is. How many times have you had a noob on your team ask you how you build something and when you tell them they ask you how you build the item that helps build the other item?Before the premades hell before all this immortal crap I would spend text after text and occasionally be killed or fall behind on farming telling my allie how to make the items.

Player 1:How do you get lifesteal?
Player 2: You need Scepter of Primarch
Player 1:How you make Scepter
Player 2:Rod of Immortality + Diamond King + Recipe
Player 1:Where do I find Rod of Immortality?
Player 2:You dont it too is a recipe Rod of Might + Totomic Glyph + Recipe
Player 1:Where do you find those?
Player 2:Mid Range Items
Player 1: Where is that?
Player 2:Pinging the location
Player 1:I cant find it
Player 2: Thinking to themself (Ugh why the fuck did this moron join a pro only game)

Anyone remember that rage or annoyance?
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PostSubject: Re: High Premade Items   High Premade Items EmptyWed Sep 02, 2009 5:13 pm

^^and someone hit the nail on the head!

Then with the immortals recipes, requiring black knights mail, and shit like that, you would spend 4-5 minutes simply combinning items to make immortals boots... and in the situation of making a 130,000G item, if you spend 12k to save 3 minutes of time, you really are making a profit. it would be stupid early game not to make everything in peices, but end game, it saves a lot of time for our lazier players...

also the noob thing... thats also why i put those recipes all over the map!
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