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PostSubject: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyThu Jul 09, 2009 11:58 pm

Skill Info:
An ability that will give your hero a temporarily life drain attack
Mana cost: 65 + 25x level
Life Drain (%) 5%x level
Duration: 8 sec + .5x level sec
Damage bonus: Past Level + current Level x2

Background:
One of the best skills in CHA, this skill becomes extremely useful starting from early mid game to late game, the true effects can be seen when this skill gets to level 5 or above. The damage bonus given by the skills at level 12 is 156, which is a huge boost to attack damage. It Is also a GREAT farming skill as it drains hp and increase your damage. The only down side is the skill doesn't last for long and it is purgable by a lightning orb or a rock orb.

General Information: The thing you can compare this with is scepter of the primarch, a 10% passive life drain bonus. However, orb effects won't show up when we're using the life drain attack from the scepter, as a result it will decrease our farming power (can't use exceptional fire orb) and pvp power (can't use lightning orb or corruption orb). Vampiric soul stacks with orb effects, so you can farm much better than those using scepter of the primarch due to this advantage.

Skill Usage:
This skill is good for both ranged and melee hero. The leveling of this skill depends on the int of your hero, if your hero has a high int stats or int gain, it is suggested that you level this as fast as possible. If your hero has low int stats and gain like arthas or illdan, it is suggested that you level this skill only when you have a decent item that gives nice int bonus. However, knowing the fact that it doesn't help much in farming for the first 4 levels in early game, so this might put you a little bit behind in leveling in early game. In order to prevent that, you might need to pick some skills like spiked armor or rejuv or endurance as your secondary skills to aid you in farming. If you get this skill, be sure that you DO NOT pick any other puragable skill, as an experienced CHA player will buy a rock orb or lightning orb for sure in order to prevent your insane life drain attack. This skill can greatly aid killing elemental bosses in early level, if you want to try to kill lightning boss or fire boss at lvl 16-18, this skill is like a must as it gives you ~100 damage bonus and ~40% life drain attack .
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyFri Jul 10, 2009 12:28 am

Hey this is sort of on topic but lightning and rock orb only dispell one buff dont they...?

If that is the case then having rejuve and activiating it and THEN activating vamp would protect your vamp from one purge wouldnt it?
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyFri Jul 10, 2009 1:04 am

It doesn't seem that way to me, the purge effect looks like taking out more than one buff at once.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyFri Jul 10, 2009 10:27 am

Rock/light do infact only remove 1 buff at a time. I believe it takes the buff off the top though, so you'd have to do juv after vamp. However, this would only work early game, then you would lose. If you have both vamp and juv, your opponent would get exceptional light, and you would lose, gg!
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyWed Dec 09, 2009 2:08 pm

This has got to be the most under used skill in public games.
I rarely see vamp used and it owns flat-out that and it stack nicely with avatar.The only downside is that it take the slot of most of the good farming skills.(it is possible to farm with but drains mana quickly early game).
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyWed Dec 09, 2009 9:54 pm

Wrathtoruin wrote:
This has got to be the most under used skill in public games.
I rarely see vamp used and it owns flat-out that and it stack nicely with avatar.The only downside is that it take the slot of most of the good farming skills.(it is possible to farm with but drains mana quickly early game).

This is a great skill for an int hero with lots of armor
I got it in a random mode game. Your hero can absorb health from mobs to last longer but your hero has to be strong.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 1:58 am

Vamp soul was all the rage among a lot of good players a few edits back, but it received a significant nerf, and thus I for one have put it aside for the most part... I would still be happy to get it in a random, but the days when I tried to incorporate it into many of my builds are over.

Still fairly strong though... enough to force the opponent to go lightning or stone if it's a close one.
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PostSubject: Re: Offensive - Vampiric Soul   Offensive -   Vampiric Soul EmptyThu Dec 10, 2009 11:39 am

the 156 damage boost and 36% life regen still make this the strongest offensive skill you can get. The fact that it is so easily countered by light orb is why it is under used. That plus, the fact that it takes the offensive slot. I still try to use this as often as possible. Usually in superstart mode I will pick this on a str hero with evasion and guardian ward.

It has really gone from the the best end game skill, to a rapetastic mid game skill, that is still insanely strong end game. With this skill at level 5 or so, you can easily down elementals. Its downside is just PvP against someone smart enough to purge it. Hence I use slithery and evasion with it. Slitherys BAT combined with evasion are enough end game OP-ness that I dont have to rely on it.

Using some brains though; grab a scepter of the primarch to go with this. That 10% steal cannot be countered, or even matched. They will be forced to use a light or stone orb.
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