What's with the tension in chao?

Quite a few times now, I have witnessed chao members talking bad about cha0, myself, and the members of cha0 in a negative way. As anyone who has been in chao for more than 4 months would know, chao has gone downhill in terms of maturity; but really? To this level? I advertise your clan, I make your map, I built your forum, and other than occasionally pointing out your immature members, I say nothing negative about your clan.

Seriously, this immaturity disgusts me to no end -there is a reason you rarely see me online anymore. I'm gonna talk to my clan, and see if they wanna grow on their own, and stop hanging out with chao, if they wanna disband, or what. Because as it is, chao members seem to resent us; If not for the clan, I would have quit CHA a while ago. That reasoning has gone out the window though.

wth who are you talkin about? i personally havent seen anyone taklin shit about cha0 and i havent even heard of you talkin about immature people other than tellin me to cool it sometimes
if someone talks shit about cha0 ill kick them out of the clan myself but so far i havent seen any of this and im on almost all the time

ive never seen anyone talk bad about cha0.. like, literally not even once...



also....... Tension*

college degree at work

mmm, gotta love that new york state education! You wouldnt believe the grammar courses I've never taken...

ANYWAY, it has never been a MAJOR thing, not like an individual person. It could just be the dissolving overall attitude of the CHA community that is making me more edgy than usual; and the occasional cha0 comments are just icing on the cake.

I cant tell the CHA community to "grow up" because, this is after all just a game. However, the reason I havent quit this in the past has been because I enjoyed the community. The cha community has turned into 4chan though. Those of you who dont know, that is a bad thing. Those who do know, hopefully you are entertained by that comparison ^_^

lol, college..

if only people werent such bitches....................... im immune from this, as i am awesome



and i dont think 4chao is a bad thing all the time, just the fact that it has turned into 4chao most of the time.. If it was spread out a bit, it would be fine as 4chao is awfully entertaining when you are in a shitty mood =p

well i understand what glorn is talking about and i have actually seen once or twice that members talk something "negatively" about cha0, but well, negative is a very general term...
However, if there's anything said badly about cha0, i think new members will be responsible for that because of the comparism between the two clans. There seems to be a misunderstanding of cha0 members are "always" better than chao members . I mean most of the cha0 members are from chao, though most of them were in the clan longer than the members in chao, still there shouldn't be any differences between the two clans, remember the reason why cha0 is created is because chao has too many members on its own.

anyway, remember how we recruit new members, we merely tested their skills in cha, some shitty personalities might not be shown at that time but after that person joined.

And glorn, lets not talk about quitting, i'd hate to see that word

Competition brings out the worse in mortals. What is this topic about Im a little confused. Is this the whole problem chao/cha0? Two of the same clan? Your the same clan hang your ego's at the door and just play.

I see this all the time. If you think this is bad look at the whole who is better East or West debates you see on forums. Before anyone gets the chance to bring that up East may be better at hero arena games but its only because its a melting pot of everybody. Most of the hero arena creators came from east. So the tournaments were held at east which forced the really good players from west and europe to move over to east. The only way to prove you are good or among the best is to win tournaments or advance far in them.

Just play nicely children. Eventually everyone loses once in a while it doesnt really matter to whom you lose to. Clan tags dont mean anything.

The second clan was created because at the time, chao was full. Cha0 was created to be the same clan as chao. A lot of newer members (as Konyiu pointed out) dont know the reasons for two clans. And many of them are invited purely based on skill, rather than maturity. There was no intention for there to be competition between the two clans. If there was, then I would say flame away, competition is good. However, if there was competition, I wouldnt have chao written all over my map, and the names of chao shaman on my map; or built a forum for the chao clan, or send people interested in joining a CHA clan to chao; or tell my clan that chao chat is where we go, because we are part of their clan.

There seems to be a lot of 1 sided competition, and it is rather annoying. Competition would be bad between the 2 clans, because no offense, but my clan holds most of the assets. Me and verti agreed during the split that competition would be harmful to the CHA community. Sadly, verti plays WM all the time, and only plays CHA 1.6. So soon I assume he will be leaving chao for Irons clan.

verti leaving chao? since when is this happening

that was a joke :p Remember when iron left, he gave a speech on how he would only play 1.6 and dota? again, that was a joke, verti is not leaving chao (well, not to my knowledge)

ohhhh lol sorry didnt catch that one

lol first off no i am NOT leaving anytime soon, especially now that 3.0 is out. I play wintermaul more now because the games are faster and way easier to play one handed both of which are quite handy (pun intended) when I am holding a baby or working. Also I have played maybe 2 games of 1.6 in the last 3 months, 1 was with lab and a bunch of other clan peeps, the other was like 2 days ago when i was in a random mood and we had a small clan match. I do still play quite a bit of 2.1 but more so with random pubs in order to recruit, plus quite honestly I usually lose in clan only games, and while I don't care if i lose sometimes people get a bit...inflated... when they beat me. Im pretty sure I'm always the first to say I am not chief cuz I am the best.

Now that my situation is clarified... onto the 'tinshunn'

Glorn is completely right in what he is saying about cha0 being a break off of the same clan and competition between the 2 causing seperation, because yea the active cha0 member would own 85% or more of the active chao members. Although I would also have to agree that I have never heard anything negative being said about cha0, unless it was jar talkin about it being inactive, but seeing as how he was cha0 that doesn't really count. I think I have probably said it isn't as active as we thought it might be, and I have explained to people 'why glorn left chao' a lot but again nothing really negative at all.

I guess going forward we have 3 options:

1. chao currently has like 60 members i think and im not sure how many people are in cha0 but I would assume its much less than 40. we could for the time being unsplit the 2 to remove any confusion and maybe even help out with our overall maturity.

2. cha0 can say eff you guys im goin home and split completely, which would probably mean no forum for chao and just genernally piss people off who are as of right now perfectly happy i think. (verti does not like this option)

3. we can keep the clan layout as is, keep a short reasoning behind cha0 on the motd, address any current ill feelings going on, and move on (verti thinks this is probably the best for now)

lol.. all i said was its inactive.. only people i see on is glorn, accursed, grim hasnt been on in a while, and idk who else since im not in it anymore.. but i think them 2 are good enough to make up the clan haha

hey, in a 2v2 tourny, we would do pretty good :p

jagged has been pretty active lately though... but yeah.. i dont see many members... they all log on a few times a week, but i rarely see them. Could be my estranged hours. ><

well u can count on me to tell u whos on since im on alot lol
ya accursed is good in 2v2 ive never seen him 1v1 tho.. we always the same in 2v2 though same stats and level lol